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Amos Schocken (aka Famous Amos) responds to NileMedia


Dear Mr. Amr

I never said there is a license to victimize the Palestinians. All I said, in response to your shock at the fact that Ariel Sharon was elected leader of the Likud, was that some of the Arab leaders are much worse. And make no mistake - I certainly think Sharon should not have been elected leader of the Likud, and I certainly think his public record does not warrant that he should be prime minister either. That I also think that Mr. Arafat leaves as a leader a lot to be desired, would probably not surprise you. But as I said - don't be so shocked at our leaders, and I will not be shocked at your leaders. In Israel, at least we can elect our leaders.

You can easily check what Haaretz wrote about Sharon in the last twenty years. We think he only caused damage in his public roles. We wrote that he lied to prime minister Begin in 1982 (he sued us for libel, lost the case and is now appealing). But do not get carried away - your comparing Sharon to Heider, Waldheim, Pinochet or the others show that you are not a serious student of history, but rather a reckless user of slogans that are not valid.

Try another explanation on how Sharon became candidate. It is not that the Israelis have "deep contempt for the value of Palestinian lives", as you write, but that they have deep respect for the value of Israeli lives, and when they see Israeli kids killed or mutilated, they think (erroneously according to my thinking) that a tough General like Sharon will get them security. And this is not ethnic bias. Most people will be closer to their own - even the Palestinians.

Should Israel vote in Sharon as prime minister, it will also be a proof that the Palestinian leadership succeeded in persuading the Israeli public that peace is not what the Palestinians want, but a showdown of force. This may not be true, but this is the way the situation will be understood by the Israeli public.

The "outrageous bigotry that Palestinian mothers would sell their children for a handful of coins" - where is this nonsense taken from? Has any Israeli said that much?

Zionism is not an "ideology of another age, another century" as you write, any more than the Palestinian national movement is the ideology of another age, another century. In a gist Zionism is the ideology that said the solution for the dispersed and persecuted Jewish people is in the framework of a political entity, a state of the Jews, that will be re-established in the historical homeland of the Jews - Zion. The holocaust has nothing to do with it. Zionism was formulated much before.

And if a state for the Jews, the law of return is a necessary element - the homeland of the Jews is open to accept any Jew. You may not like it, but Jewish history taught us that we are not welcome in many countries. So let there be one place where we are sure to be welcome.

Your DNA test suggestion is ridiculous. The previous person who suggested the equivalent test of his period was Adolph Hitler. He too was interested in race. But this is irrelevant - you have the history of the Jews, and this history is intertwined with this piece of land. That this is our historic homeland, there is no doubt. That we wanted to re-establish our presence here, and that we want to live here, is obvious. How should we co-exist with the Palestinian population in the region - there is obviously more than one way, and we and them are now trying to formulate a better way.

You can spend your time developing theories that we belong to Europe, but what of it? We know where our forefathers lived, and we know what good life we had in Europe. I get the impression that you too think how nice life could be without those Jews. Well, you will not blame me for not volunteering to rid you of the Jews. If in 1948 and in 1967 the Arabs said not how nice can it be without the Jews, but rather how nice can it be with the Jews, I am sure you would have been in a much better state.

Why should I go to the 19th century - we are not newcomers to the region like maybe the Palestinians. Remember Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews?

It is unfortunate that you are unable to see in us anything but evil. But it is not only our problem, it is also your problem. I don't think that historical research will prove any Palestinian point of view - but I understand your point. Your solution is to show that we do not belong here. Do as you like, but do not expect this to solve the conflict.


Amos Schocken

P.S. You can publish my letters only if you publish the full correspondence with no omissions or changes.



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